LCD vs Projection lcd Whats The Difference?

mykey · Joined: 01 Aug 2007 Posts: 58

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The difference is that LCD projectors have a terrible picture, fuzzy,
weak brightness, require a real glass bead screen, and have very poor
reliability and are noisy. Inside the projector are plastic mirrors
that slowly melt from the light bulb's heat.
If you are purchasing JVC it's worse than I described.
Buy a flatscreen LCD Sony, costs more but lasts longer and much
better picture. You can even watch it with the lights turned on.
The projector is revenge for Hiroshima, mark my words.

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Dave Bugg · Joined: 01 Aug 2007 Posts: 182

mykey wrote:
> The difference is that LCD projectors have a terrible .....blah, blah,
> blah

Same song from an absolute twit.

--
Dave
www.davebbq.com

Tony Deb · Joined: 01 Aug 2007 Posts: 1

Not having compared these in person but knowing that projection is
cheaper, wgat is the diff? Is straight LCD better?
I am looking at several 40 to 46 lcd HD tv's. Sony and JVC are very
close but a bit more expensive than the proj. type.
Any insight on this subject would be much appreciated. Thanks.

Tony C.

Dave Balcom · Joined: 20 Nov 2007 Posts: 1

On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 22:35:42 -0500, acdccc@webtv.net (Tony Deb) wrote:

}Not having compared these in person but knowing that projection is
}cheaper, wgat is the diff? Is straight LCD better?

Better is relative. The deal killer for me (I had a Panasonic RP LCD for
4 years and recently replaced it with a direct LCD -- a Sony Bravia
2500) was the lamp usage.

A rear projector uses a lamp with a limited life span. The lamp in my
Panasonic was rated at 4000 hours which translated into just over a year
in my household. The lamp cost close to $300 so it was not a minor
expense. Plus, there was a fan filter to keep clean that kept the light
source cooled or it shortened the lamp life.

To be fair, the manufacturers are now switching to newer technology like
LED light sources that address those problems. I believe my Sony has an
expected lamp life of 60,000 hours or so. Smaller differences, the
direct LCD take much less space and are lighter than rear projectors.
Picture wise there was no comparison, the Sony is much brighter and
clearer. However, the Pany was also over 4 years old too...

Later,
Dave

mykey · Joined: 01 Aug 2007 Posts: 58

On Nov 19, 9:55 pm, "Dave Bugg" wrote:
> mykey wrote:
> > The difference is that LCD projectors have a terrible .....blah, blah,
> > blah
>
> Same song from an absolute twit.
>
> --
> Davewww.davebbq.com

An absolute twit who is the only professional technician
answering this post.
LCD projectors with the "hair dryer" fan motor are pretend
video projectors.
Any TV system that uses mirrors to project a TV picture should
be avoided. The frequent repairs resulting from the pathetic
design of LCD toy projectors make a flat screen an obvious choice.
Using such deceptive terms as "razor sharp, crystal clear picture"
and "super high brightness" are absolute fraud. LCD projectors
SUCK and professionals do not install them.
The reason we do not install them is that we have reputations
to preserve, and we would rather that our customers return for
repeat business. The quickest way to lose a customer is to sell
them one of these HEAPS.

Dave Bugg · Joined: 01 Aug 2007 Posts: 182

mykey wrote:
> On Nov 19, 9:55 pm, "Dave Bugg" wrote:
>> mykey wrote:
>>> The difference is that LCD projectors have a terrible .....blah,
>>> blah, blah
>>
>> Same song from an absolute twit.
>>
>> --
>> Davewww.davebbq.com
>
> An absolute twit who is the only professional technician
> answering this post.

You say that without one bit of proof. Regardless, your repeated ignorant
opinion about lcd projectors marks you for what you are.

> LCD projectors with the "hair dryer" fan motor are pretend
> video projectors.

And you are a pretend 'professional technician'.

> Any TV system that uses mirrors to project a.... blah, blah, blah.

--
Dave
www.davebbq.com

Steven Sullivan · Joined: 01 Aug 2007 Posts: 21

mykey wrote:
> On Nov 19, 9:55 pm, "Dave Bugg" wrote:
> > mykey wrote:
> > > The difference is that LCD projectors have a terrible .....blah, blah,
> > > blah
> >
> > Same song from an absolute twit.
> >
> > --
> > Davewww.davebbq.com

> An absolute twit who is the only professional technician
> answering this post.
> LCD projectors with the "hair dryer" fan motor are pretend
> video projectors.
> Any TV system that uses mirrors to project a TV picture should
> be avoided. The frequent repairs resulting from the pathetic
> design of LCD toy projectors make a flat screen an obvious choice.

I've had a Sanyo Z4 LCD projector for well over a year now...no problems
whatsoever.

Indeed, there's plenty of testimony from A/V magazines and
forums like AVSForum...where there are also professional installers,
technicians and calibrators -- to belie your claims.

___
-S
"As human beings, we understand the world through simile, analogy,
metaphor, narrative and, sometimes, claymation." - B. Mason

Steven Vaughan · Joined: 01 Aug 2007 Posts: 2

"Tony Deb" wrote in message @storefull-3315.bay.webtv.net...
> Not having compared these in person but knowing that projection is
> cheaper, wgat is the diff? Is straight LCD better?
> I am looking at several 40 to 46 lcd HD tv's. Sony and JVC are very
> close but a bit more expensive than the proj. type.
> Any insight on this subject would be much appreciated. Thanks.
>

Tony,

I noticed that 3 twits are arguing over PROJECTORS, while no one anwered
your question about PROJECTION vs LCD. An LCD panel has higher apparent
resolution, is brighter, and has better contrast that a projection LCD TV.
LCD TV is also a lot smaller than projection TV.

nospam.TV · Joined: 28 Nov 2007 Posts: 1

Tony Deb wrote:

> Not having compared these in person but knowing that projection is
> cheaper, wgat is the diff? Is straight LCD better?
> I am looking at several 40 to 46 lcd HD tv's. Sony and JVC are very
> close but a bit more expensive than the proj. type.
> Any insight on this subject would be much appreciated. Thanks.

I would buy either a Plasma or a LCD, and stay as far away from
projection TV as possible.

Projection TV works by projecting a light source through some medium,
sometimes reflected off a mirror, and shows up on the screen. During
this process, a lot of things can mess up the image, such as
convergence errors, geometric distortion, as well as aging of
components and dust build-up that throws off the picture quality. It
may look great for a year or so, but as the set ages, picture quality
will get worst.

Plasma or LCD TVs on the other hand, does not have these issues to
begin with. It has perfect geometry and no convergence error by
nature. As the set ages, probably the only thing you will notice is a
slight decrease in picture brightness. Which can be compensated by
re-calibrating the set and adjust the brightness/contrast setting
(something you should do when you buy the TV with a DVD such as Video
Essential).

In a nutshell, if you don't plan to get new TVs every few years, then
projection TV is a bad choice.

I personally have a Panasonic Plasma TV. Had it for 2 years and no
problems what so ever. The image is as good as when I bought it
initially. I know someone who has a Samsung DLP projection TV, and has
commented that the picture quality has degraded substantially. I had a
Sony XBR RPTV for a long time, it looked awesome when I bought it, but
the picture quality continue to drop as the set ages and things gets
slightly out of alignment.

Raymond

C what I mean · Joined: 01 Aug 2007 Posts: 12

I had a Pioneer RP TV for almost 10 years before it finally went out. The
picture was great for all but the last month. I now have a Pioneer Elite RP
TV that I have had for about 3 years.. it has a great picture and to date I
have had nothing but very good comments about the picture quality.

I am not saying it is better then a plasma but I bought this because I
didn't like any of the LCD's, at that time, that I compared to the Elite.
Also 3 years ago there were many ideas floating around about Plasma life
time limits and expensive repairs.. Oh.. and one more thing.. at that time I
could not find any decent plasma that didn't have a very highly reflective
face. That is the pits when you can not block all the angled light sources
such as windows and glass doors.

I do have an LCD projector in my home theater though.. and I am very happy
with that! I have a Sony 9" gun CRT projector that I bought to use there
but it was physically too big for my space so it still sits in it's shipping
crate.. never got to compare those two..

Just my experiences..
wrote in message $2r13$1@agate.berkeley.edu...
> Tony Deb wrote:
>
>> Not having compared these in person but knowing that projection is
>> cheaper, wgat is the diff? Is straight LCD better?
>> I am looking at several 40 to 46 lcd HD tv's. Sony and JVC are very
>> close but a bit more expensive than the proj. type.
>> Any insight on this subject would be much appreciated. Thanks.
>
> I would buy either a Plasma or a LCD, and stay as far away from
> projection TV as possible.
>
> Projection TV works by projecting a light source through some medium,
> sometimes reflected off a mirror, and shows up on the screen. During
> this process, a lot of things can mess up the image, such as
> convergence errors, geometric distortion, as well as aging of
> components and dust build-up that throws off the picture quality. It
> may look great for a year or so, but as the set ages, picture quality
> will get worst.
>
> Plasma or LCD TVs on the other hand, does not have these issues to
> begin with. It has perfect geometry and no convergence error by
> nature. As the set ages, probably the only thing you will notice is a
> slight decrease in picture brightness. Which can be compensated by
> re-calibrating the set and adjust the brightness/contrast setting
> (something you should do when you buy the TV with a DVD such as Video
> Essential).
>
> In a nutshell, if you don't plan to get new TVs every few years, then
> projection TV is a bad choice.
>
> I personally have a Panasonic Plasma TV. Had it for 2 years and no
> problems what so ever. The image is as good as when I bought it
> initially. I know someone who has a Samsung DLP projection TV, and has
> commented that the picture quality has degraded substantially. I had a
> Sony XBR RPTV for a long time, it looked awesome when I bought it, but
> the picture quality continue to drop as the set ages and things gets
> slightly out of alignment.
>
> Raymond