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What abt three piece HT systems such as Bose, Phillips?

 
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 5:35 pm    Post subject: What abt three piece HT systems such as Bose, Phillips? Reply with quote

These two systems below both only have three speakers.
They attract me cause they are less gainly...less wires
to run. Advice on such systems?

http://www.bose.com/controller?event=VIEW_PRODUCT_PAGE_EVENT&product=321gs_dvd_index

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=5057438

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mykey



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 12:56 am    Post subject: Re: What abt three piece HT systems such as Bose, Phillips? Reply with quote

On Jan 29, 10:35 am, m...@privacy.net wrote:
> These two systems below both only have three speakers.
> They attract me cause they are less gainly...less wires
> to run. Advice on such systems?
>
> http://www.bose.com/controller?event=VIEW_PRODUCT_PAGE_EVENT&product=...
>
> http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=5057438

Buy Other Sound Equipment.
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T Shadow



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 1:39 am    Post subject: Re: What abt three piece HT systems such as Bose, Phillips? Reply with quote

wrote in message@4ax.com...
> These two systems below both only have three speakers.
> They attract me cause they are less gainly...less wires
> to run. Advice on such systems?
>
>
http://www.bose.com/controller?event=VIEW_PRODUCT_PAGE_EVENT&product=321gs_dvd_index
>
> http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=5057438

Go for it if a you don't mind a reverb effect instead of actual surround
sound.
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John Carrier



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 11:52 am    Post subject: Re: What abt three piece HT systems such as Bose, Phillips? Reply with quote

And they sound so much better than the TV's built in speakers.

R / John

"T Shadow" wrote in message $0$22584$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> wrote in message
> @4ax.com...
>> These two systems below both only have three speakers.
>> They attract me cause they are less gainly...less wires
>> to run. Advice on such systems?
>>
>>
> http://www.bose.com/controller?event=VIEW_PRODUCT_PAGE_EVENT&product=321gs_dvd_index
>>
>> http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=5057438
>
> Go for it if a you don't mind a reverb effect instead of actual surround
> sound.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 3:20 pm    Post subject: Re: What abt three piece HT systems such as Bose, Phillips? Reply with quote

"T Shadow" wrote:

> wrote in message
>@4ax.com...
>> These two systems below both only have three speakers.
>> They attract me cause they are less gainly...less wires
>> to run. Advice on such systems?
>>
>>
>http://www.bose.com/controller?event=VIEW_PRODUCT_PAGE_EVENT&product=321gs_dvd_index
>>
>> http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=5057438
>
>Go for it if a you don't mind a reverb effect instead of actual surround
>sound.

OK

Well another question.... can a 5.1 system be used with
only THREE of the speaker... the sub and tow
satellites?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 3:21 pm    Post subject: Re: What abt three piece HT systems such as Bose, Phillips? Reply with quote

"John Carrier" wrote:

>And they sound so much better than the TV's built in speakers.

This is why I ask...cause it seems to me that all the
modern TV's are very lacking in audio and speaker
department...hence the "need" for some kind of external
home theater system even if its a cheapie! True?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 5:38 pm    Post subject: Re: What abt three piece HT systems such as Bose, Phillips? Reply with quote

"T Shadow" wrote:

>You'd want to check the manual for the speakers. Unless it specifically
>states you can you'd need to keep a load on the outputs. Of course you can
>put the speakers anywhere if surround isn't important..

Ok thanks for all your help guys!!

I know my questions seem weird but my budget is very
very tight..... yet would like to get something to use.
Just looking at things from all angles first.

I could just go ahead ad set the extra two speakers up
front as you suggest so as not to run the wires behind
the couch.... but it does sound like its important to
keep a "load" on those extra tow channels instead of
NOT hooked up at all.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 5:40 pm    Post subject: Re: What abt three piece HT systems such as Bose, Phillips? Reply with quote

On Jan 29, 1:35 pm, m...@privacy.net wrote:
> These two systems below both only have three speakers.
> They attract me cause they are less gainly...less wires
> to run.  Advice on such systems?
>
> http://www.bose.com/controller?event=VIEW_PRODUCT_PAGE_EVENT&product=....
>
> http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=5057438

I would suggest that a stero pair of very good bookshelf speakers and
a modest stereo receiver would sound better and cost less, while still
giving you options to expand in the future.

These "front-only surround" systems use various forms of signal
manipulation and distortion to create an artificial surround effect.
That's their purpose. First sell people on the necessity of paying a
lot for multiple channels of tiny speakers, then get them to pay even
more for fewer channels that only emulate the effect of the real
surround system.

Good bookshelf speakers will accurately and cleanly reproduce all the
sound that's there, except for the lowest bass (which these
compromised systems -- and no Bose systems -- can reproduce anyway).
It won't be surround, but you've already given up on that anyway.

You should shop for used speakers and receivers; classic stuff from
decades past that still sound as good as anything made today, for
pennies on the dollar because they come in unsexy rectangular 2-cubic-
foot boxes.
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T Shadow



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 6:22 pm    Post subject: Re: What abt three piece HT systems such as Bose, Phillips? Reply with quote

wrote in message@4ax.com...
> "T Shadow" wrote:
>
> > wrote in message
> >@4ax.com...
> >> These two systems below both only have three speakers.
> >> They attract me cause they are less gainly...less wires
> >> to run. Advice on such systems?
> >>
> >>
>
>http://www.bose.com/controller?event=VIEW_PRODUCT_PAGE_EVENT&product=321gs_
dvd_index
> >>
> >> http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=5057438
> >
> >Go for it if a you don't mind a reverb effect instead of actual surround
> >sound.
>
> OK
>
> Well another question.... can a 5.1 system be used with
> only THREE of the speaker... the sub and tow
> satellites?

You'd want to check the manual for the speakers. Unless it specifically
states you can you'd need to keep a load on the outputs. Of course you can
put the speakers anywhere if surround isn't important..
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Engineer



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 1:05 am    Post subject: Re: What abt three piece HT systems such as Bose, Phillips? Reply with quote

On Jan 30, 3:40 pm, rdclark wrote:
> On Jan 29, 1:35 pm, m...@privacy.net wrote:
>

(snip)

> You should shop for used speakers and receivers; classic stuff from
> decades past that still sound as good as anything made today, for
> pennies on the dollar because they come in unsexy rectangular 2-cubic-
> foot boxes.

Absolutely correct!
Save your money and buy a vintage AM/FM receiver of about 20 wpc
(Pioneer, Sansui, Sony, etc.) and a pair of bookshelf speakers. Hook
the L+R of the TV audio to the AUX in of the receiver - switch off TV
speakers, of course. I've done this for years on the second TV in the
household.
BTW, our main TV has a Yamaha 5.1 system with PSB Image 2B's, Image 9C
centre and a vintage Wharfdale rear. Sub is a 12 inch Mission brand.
Cheers,
Roger

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