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Dai · Joined: 16 Feb 2008 Posts: 1

is it to early to move my raspberry canes and strawberrys on my allotment.
the raspberry canes are autumn fruiting.

dai

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"Robert \ · Joined: 06 Feb 2008 Posts: 14

"Dai" wrote in message @mid.individual.net...
> is it to early to move my raspberry canes and strawberrys on my allotment.
> the raspberry canes are autumn fruiting.
>
> dai
No but it'll be too late if you don't get a move on

Nick Maclaren · Joined: 01 Aug 2007 Posts: 430

In article ,
"Robert $Plymouth$" writes:
|> "Dai" wrote in message
|> @mid.individual.net...
|> >
|> > is it to early to move my raspberry canes and strawberrys on my allotment.
|> > the raspberry canes are autumn fruiting.
|> >
|> No but it'll be too late if you don't get a move on

It depends where you are. In Cambridge, it is still winter. It
is not a good idea to move such things when the soil is actually
freezing at night.

Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

"Robert \ · Joined: 06 Feb 2008 Posts: 14

"Nick Maclaren" wrote in message $d0c$1@gemini.csx.cam.ac.uk...
>
> In article ,
> "Robert $Plymouth$" writes:
> |> "Dai" wrote in message
> |> @mid.individual.net...
> |> >
> |> > is it to early to move my raspberry canes and strawberrys on my
> allotment.
> |> > the raspberry canes are autumn fruiting.
> |> >
> |> No but it'll be too late if you don't get a move on
>
> It depends where you are. In Cambridge, it is still winter. It
> is not a good idea to move such things when the soil is actually
> freezing at night.
>
>
> Regards,
> Nick Maclaren.

Ahhh yes very true, that doesn't happen here .... touch wood, but we had a
touch of frost today

Mary Fisher · Joined: 01 Aug 2007 Posts: 271

"Robert (Plymouth)" wrote in message @bt.com...
>
> "Nick Maclaren" wrote in message
> $d0c$1@gemini.csx.cam.ac.uk...
>>
>> In article ,
>> "Robert $Plymouth$" writes:
>> |> "Dai" wrote in message
>> |> @mid.individual.net...
>> |> >
>> |> > is it to early to move my raspberry canes and strawberrys on my
>> allotment.
>> |> > the raspberry canes are autumn fruiting.
>> |> >
>> |> No but it'll be too late if you don't get a move on
>>
>> It depends where you are. In Cambridge, it is still winter. It
>> is not a good idea to move such things when the soil is actually
>> freezing at night.
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Nick Maclaren.
>
> Ahhh yes very true, that doesn't happen here .... touch wood, but we had a
> touch of frost today

A TOUCH???

We haven't got above freezing point all day. During the night our central
heating came on - that's unknown, it's set at 10C

Very bright sunlight though, the water is heating nicely from the solar
panel.

Mary

"Robert \ · Joined: 06 Feb 2008 Posts: 14

"Mary Fisher" wrote in message $0$763$4c56ba96@master.news.zetnet.net...
>
> "Robert (Plymouth)" wrote in message
> @bt.com...
>>
>> "Nick Maclaren" wrote in message
>> $d0c$1@gemini.csx.cam.ac.uk...
>>>
>>> In article ,
>>> "Robert $Plymouth$" writes:
>>> |> "Dai" wrote in message
>>> |> @mid.individual.net...
>>> |> >
>>> |> > is it to early to move my raspberry canes and strawberrys on my
>>> allotment.
>>> |> > the raspberry canes are autumn fruiting.
>>> |> >
>>> |> No but it'll be too late if you don't get a move on
>>>
>>> It depends where you are. In Cambridge, it is still winter. It
>>> is not a good idea to move such things when the soil is actually
>>> freezing at night.
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Nick Maclaren.
>>
>> Ahhh yes very true, that doesn't happen here .... touch wood, but we had
>> a touch of frost today
>
> A TOUCH???
>
> We haven't got above freezing point all day. During the night our central
> heating came on - that's unknown, it's set at 10C
>
> Very bright sunlight though, the water is heating nicely from the solar
> panel.
>
> Mary

Whereabouts are you?

Sacha · Joined: 17 Feb 2008 Posts: 30

On 17/2/08 18:40, in article 0oOdnWfeq-884iXaRVnyiAA@bt.com, "Robert
(Plymouth)" wrote:

>
> "Mary Fisher" wrote in message
> $0$763$4c56ba96@master.news.zetnet.net...
>>
>> "Robert (Plymouth)" wrote in message
>> @bt.com...
>>>
>>> "Nick Maclaren" wrote in message
>>> $d0c$1@gemini.csx.cam.ac.uk...
>>>>
>>>> In article ,
>>>> "Robert $Plymouth$" writes:
>>>> |> "Dai" wrote in message
>>>> |> @mid.individual.net...
>>>> |> >
>>>> |> > is it to early to move my raspberry canes and strawberrys on my
>>>> allotment.
>>>> |> > the raspberry canes are autumn fruiting.
>>>> |> >
>>>> |> No but it'll be too late if you don't get a move on
>>>>
>>>> It depends where you are. In Cambridge, it is still winter. It
>>>> is not a good idea to move such things when the soil is actually
>>>> freezing at night.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Nick Maclaren.
>>>
>>> Ahhh yes very true, that doesn't happen here .... touch wood, but we had
>>> a touch of frost today
>>
>> A TOUCH???
>>
>> We haven't got above freezing point all day. During the night our central
>> heating came on - that's unknown, it's set at 10C
>>
>> Very bright sunlight though, the water is heating nicely from the solar
>> panel.
>>
>> Mary
>
> Whereabouts are you?
>
>

We had a drinks party here last night and friends who came over the moor
from Tavistock way said it was icy and they'd had to scrape frost off the
car. Here it was 1C but today has been comparatively balmy because the wind
has dropped and shifted south a bit, having been in the east for several
days. When we walked the dogs round our field this afternoon the air really
did smell of spring, not just hopeful cold weather. Daffodils are well out
and even going over in a few places in the lanes. And we've discovered some
crocus where we've never seen them before in our banks and field edge - I
can only imagine they've spent years bulking themselves up to flowering
stage but have no idea how long it takes. Can anyone tell me?
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'

Charlie Pridham · Joined: 27 Sep 2007 Posts: 262

In article ,
sacha@nowhere.myzen.co.uk says...
> On 17/2/08 18:40, in article 0oOdnWfeq-884iXaRVnyiAA@bt.com, "Robert
> (Plymouth)" wrote:
>
> >
> > "Mary Fisher" wrote in message
> > $0$763$4c56ba96@master.news.zetnet.net...
> >>
> >> "Robert (Plymouth)" wrote in message
> >> @bt.com...
> >>>
> >>> "Nick Maclaren" wrote in message
> >>> $d0c$1@gemini.csx.cam.ac.uk...
> >>>>
> >>>> In article ,
> >>>> "Robert $Plymouth$" writes:
> >>>> |> "Dai" wrote in message
> >>>> |> @mid.individual.net...
> >>>> |> >
> >>>> |> > is it to early to move my raspberry canes and strawberrys on my
> >>>> allotment.
> >>>> |> > the raspberry canes are autumn fruiting.
> >>>> |> >
> >>>> |> No but it'll be too late if you don't get a move on
> >>>>
> >>>> It depends where you are. In Cambridge, it is still winter. It
> >>>> is not a good idea to move such things when the soil is actually
> >>>> freezing at night.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Regards,
> >>>> Nick Maclaren.
> >>>
> >>> Ahhh yes very true, that doesn't happen here .... touch wood, but we had
> >>> a touch of frost today
> >>
> >> A TOUCH???
> >>
> >> We haven't got above freezing point all day. During the night our central
> >> heating came on - that's unknown, it's set at 10C
> >>
> >> Very bright sunlight though, the water is heating nicely from the solar
> >> panel.
> >>
> >> Mary
> >
> > Whereabouts are you?
> >
> >
>
> We had a drinks party here last night and friends who came over the moor
Some will flower one year from seed some take two but crocus are prolific
seeders, may be a mouse moved a seed pod or two!
--
Charlie Pridham, Gardening in Cornwall
www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of national collections of Clematis viticella cultivars and
Lapageria rosea

Sacha · Joined: 17 Feb 2008 Posts: 30

On 18/2/08 09:04, in article MPG.22235a8531b302359897a4@News.Individual.NET,
"Charlie Pridham" wrote:

> Some will flower one year from seed some take two but crocus are prolific
> seeders, may be a mouse moved a seed pod or two!

Thanks Charlie and could well be. We have them in various spots in the
garden but these have appeared 'from nowhere' - I like happy accidents of
that sort!
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'

Nick Maclaren · Joined: 01 Aug 2007 Posts: 430

In article ,
Sacha writes:
|> On 18/2/08 09:04, in article MPG.22235a8531b302359897a4@News.Individual.NET,
|> "Charlie Pridham" wrote:
|>
|> > Some will flower one year from seed some take two but crocus are prolific
|> > seeders, may be a mouse moved a seed pod or two!
|>
|> Thanks Charlie and could well be. We have them in various spots in the
|> garden but these have appeared 'from nowhere' - I like happy accidents of
|> that sort!

I am cherishing some of my Danae racemosa seedlings that did that, and
they are fascinating. In addition to the juvenile leaves being quite
different, they are INCREDIBLY slow growing. My guess is that you are
talking about 10-20 years from seed to adult height - but they spread
sideways at a reasonable rate once they get there!

Its seeds were viable in a couple of hot summers about 5 years ago; it
always sets seed, but they had rarely germinated before. That may be
more to do with the conditions for the seedlings establishing themselves,
of course.

Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

Mary Fisher · Joined: 01 Aug 2007 Posts: 271

"Robert (Plymouth)" wrote in message @bt.com...
>
> "Mary Fisher" wrote in message
> $0$763$4c56ba96@master.news.zetnet.net...
>>
>> "Robert (Plymouth)" wrote in message
>> @bt.com...
>>>
>>> "Nick Maclaren" wrote in message
>>> $d0c$1@gemini.csx.cam.ac.uk...
>>>>
>>>> In article ,
>>>> "Robert $Plymouth$" writes:
>>>> |> "Dai" wrote in message
>>>> |> @mid.individual.net...
>>>> |> >
>>>> |> > is it to early to move my raspberry canes and strawberrys on my
>>>> allotment.
>>>> |> > the raspberry canes are autumn fruiting.
>>>> |> >
>>>> |> No but it'll be too late if you don't get a move on
>>>>
>>>> It depends where you are. In Cambridge, it is still winter. It
>>>> is not a good idea to move such things when the soil is actually
>>>> freezing at night.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Nick Maclaren.
>>>
>>> Ahhh yes very true, that doesn't happen here .... touch wood, but we had
>>> a touch of frost today
>>
>> A TOUCH???
>>
>> We haven't got above freezing point all day. During the night our central
>> heating came on - that's unknown, it's set at 10C
>>
>> Very bright sunlight though, the water is heating nicely from the solar
>> panel.
>>
>> Mary
>
> Whereabouts are you?

Leeds, Yorkshire.

Mary
>
>

Charlie Pridham · Joined: 27 Sep 2007 Posts: 262

In article ,
mary.fisher@zetnet.co.uk says...
>
> "Robert (Plymouth)" wrote in message
> @bt.com...
> >
> > "Mary Fisher" wrote in message
> > $0$763$4c56ba96@master.news.zetnet.net...
> >>
> >> "Robert (Plymouth)" wrote in message
> >> @bt.com...
> >>>
> >>> "Nick Maclaren" wrote in message
> >>> $d0c$1@gemini.csx.cam.ac.uk...
> >>>>
> >>>> In article ,
> >>>> "Robert $Plymouth$" writes:
> >>>> |> "Dai" wrote in message
> >>>> |> @mid.individual.net...
> >>>> |> >
> >>>> |> > is it to early to move my raspberry canes and strawberrys on my
> >>>> allotment.
> >>>> |> > the raspberry canes are autumn fruiting.
> >>>> |> >
> >>>> |> No but it'll be too late if you don't get a move on
> >>>>
> >>>> It depends where you are. In Cambridge, it is still winter. It
> >>>> is not a good idea to move such things when the soil is actually
> >>>> freezing at night.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Regards,
> >>>> Nick Maclaren.
> >>>
> >>> Ahhh yes very true, that doesn't happen here .... touch wood, but we had
> >>> a touch of frost today
> >>
> >> A TOUCH???
> >>
> >> We haven't got above freezing point all day. During the night our central
> >> heating came on - that's unknown, it's set at 10C
> >>
> >> Very bright sunlight though, the water is heating nicely from the solar
> >> panel.
> >>
> >> Mary
> >
> > Whereabouts are you?
>
> Leeds, Yorkshire.
>
> Mary
Been hovering just above zero at night here which is a relief as things
are further ahead
--
Charlie Pridham, Gardening in Cornwall
www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of national collections of Clematis viticella cultivars and
Lapageria rosea

Sacha · Joined: 17 Feb 2008 Posts: 30

On 18/2/08 12:42, in article MPG.22238d8d8582772e9897a5@News.Individual.NET,
"Charlie Pridham" wrote:

> In article ,
> mary.fisher@zetnet.co.uk says...
>>
>> "Robert (Plymouth)" wrote in message
>> @bt.com...
>>>
>>> "Mary Fisher" wrote in message
>>> $0$763$4c56ba96@master.news.zetnet.net...
>>>>
>>>> "Robert (Plymouth)" wrote in message
>>>> @bt.com...
>>>>>
>>>>> "Nick Maclaren" wrote in message
>>>>> $d0c$1@gemini.csx.cam.ac.uk...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In article ,
>>>>>> "Robert $Plymouth$" writes:
>>>>>> |> "Dai" wrote in message
>>>>>> |> @mid.individual.net...
>>>>>> |> >
>>>>>> |> > is it to early to move my raspberry canes and strawberrys on my
>>>>>> allotment.
>>>>>> |> > the raspberry canes are autumn fruiting.
>>>>>> |> >
>>>>>> |> No but it'll be too late if you don't get a move on
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It depends where you are. In Cambridge, it is still winter. It
>>>>>> is not a good idea to move such things when the soil is actually
>>>>>> freezing at night.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Nick Maclaren.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ahhh yes very true, that doesn't happen here .... touch wood, but we had
>>>>> a touch of frost today
>>>>
>>>> A TOUCH???
>>>>
>>>> We haven't got above freezing point all day. During the night our central
>>>> heating came on - that's unknown, it's set at 10C
>>>>
>>>> Very bright sunlight though, the water is heating nicely from the solar
>>>> panel.
>>>>
>>>> Mary
>>>
>>> Whereabouts are you?
>>
>> Leeds, Yorkshire.
>>
>> Mary
> Been hovering just above zero at night here which is a relief as things
> are further ahead

We had a slight frost this morning but so far so good for e.g. Echiums and
the like.
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'

Sacha · Joined: 17 Feb 2008 Posts: 30

On 18/2/08 20:41, in article l9rjr31if98t00mefvug95e5ldehbmdha3@4ax.com,
"Chris Hogg" wrote:

> On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 15:42:26 +0000, Sacha
> wrote:
>
>> On 18/2/08 12:42, in article MPG.22238d8d8582772e9897a5@News.Individual.NET,
>> "Charlie Pridham" wrote:
>>
>>> Been hovering just above zero at night here which is a relief as things
>>> are further ahead
>>
>> We had a slight frost this morning but so far so good for e.g. Echiums and
>> the like.
>
> Night-time minima of about 4C over the last few days down here, with
> no sign of frost Smile

This whole winter has been very mild so far,
> with only two light ground frosts, one each in November and December,
> and no air frosts. But there's still time......

It sounds bizarre even to me but after 10 years of living in England, I'm
still trying to get used to any frost at all! Our winters are pretty mild
here but I was used to leaving Pelargoniums out all year round and having
them bloom again in the following year, for example. I grew Ballota in a
crack in some granite paving once and it was up and through a very mature
Camellia within 3 years. To me, this is inhospitably cold and it isn't a
jot or tittle of what other parts of Britain have been getting. It's the
east wind that does it - the original lazy wind. Too lazy to go round you
so it goes right through you.

--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'

K · Joined: 04 Aug 2007 Posts: 127

Chris Hogg writes
>On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 15:42:26 +0000, Sacha
>wrote:
>
>>On 18/2/08 12:42, in article MPG.22238d8d8582772e9897a5@News.Individual.NET,
>>"Charlie Pridham" wrote:
>>
>>> Been hovering just above zero at night here which is a relief as things
>>> are further ahead
>>
>>We had a slight frost this morning but so far so good for e.g. Echiums and
>>the like.
>
>Night-time minima of about 4C over the last few days down here, with
>no sign of frost Smile

This whole winter has been very mild so far,
>with only two light ground frosts, one each in November and December,
>and no air frosts. But there's still time......
>
Despite sunshine all day and heat exchange system pumping air at 75 deg
F from conservatory into house, ponds remained frozen all day, and areas
in shade remained covered in frost-edged leaves
--
Kay - Leeds

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